RE: Vietnamese Songs

[plaucl]

Hi.

I need help. Would like to learn 1 to 2 simple Vietnamese songs (for male).

Could someone help me - pse tell me where I can find these songs, as well as, the lyrics. I dont mind paying for it, but if it possible, would like to hear them first. If I can't handle it, no point buying them ( I am probably a handfull of people who can't sing to save their life).

Thanks
LauCL

[giang]

Hi, LauCL. I have this message for you. It is related to this post. It's in Gold member area, you need to log in.
http://courses.evietnamese.net/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=58

[saigon]

Hi, Lau. I think you can find a lot of Karaoke CDs at ebay.com. I had bought some CDs there.

[plaucl]

Hi Giang and Saigon,

How rude of me in not replying to both of you. My apologies. I keep moving around the various lessons. In the process, forgetting I posted a message. Thank you both for your suggestions.

Thanks to Giang, I have found a beautiful song Nu Hon Biet Ly. Am listening/learning it now. I have also learnt how to sing the Vietnamese National Anthem - another wonderful song. Thought I take this opportunity to share with other users, my approach/method to learning these songs.
1. Use a audio editor to play the song. The editor allows me to mark off/bracket a particular phrase that I want to learn to pronounce and memorise. I just keep on listening to it again and again. Once done, I move on to the next and so on.
2. Once I complete learning, I will then use a on-line dictionary to get a literal translation. In the process, improving my vocabulary as well.


Rgds
LauCL

[giang]

Hi, Plaucl, you are welcome.

Thanks to your question / suggestion, I am thinking about making a resource on EV's homepage that teach Vietnamese songs. Ít' true that when singing songs, you can also learn vocabulary. I think each song can be taught as follows:

1. Lyrics translated so that learner can know the meaning of the song for his/her choice

2. Learn to pronounce some "phonetically difficult" words in the song

3. Click on each sound icon next to each sentence (similar to First Step course) to hear and to learn to sing

I need your comments and suggestions for this new project. I also need some volunteer to edite the translations.

Hope to hear much from you.

Giang

[plaucl]

Hi Giang,

I think your plan is a great idea. Strangely, have not come across songs being used in formal adult e-learning language courses to reinforced learning. Maybe Designer think it is too casual an approach.

When I tried to learn your National Anthem and Nụ hôn biệt ly (your song), I was encouraged to learn pronunciation - in order to sing the song correctly. Then when I learned the song, quite naturally., I wanted to know its meaning. Viola - I also improved my vocabulary. Surprisely, "Much Gain with very little Pain".

I like your approach - Para 1 to 3. Great! But dont forget a Para 4 - Finally, let them hear the whole song and enjoy the song (and the language). From what I can "see" from Nụ hôn biệt ly, separate phrases (in the lyrics) are sometimes sang very close to one another. So, in addition to learning single phrases, it would be nice to provide another "flash button" to let them hear the two phrases that are sang as one. Doing so, will let the listener "join" up the phrase(s) into the complete song. The last point is not critical - only nice to have.

I dont mind helping in the editing or translation, but HaHa, it will be straight from EV dictionary. You sure you want people like us to edit the translation?

Rgds
LauCL

[giang]

Hi Plaucl,

Thanks for the para - 4. I forgot that the final purpose is ... to learn to sing the song. :) Teachers have their "desease": take everything for course content and always forget about the student's feeling :). Do you think that the para - 4 will be a photo slide. No, i should not think about it, it will require huge work.

In language learning, songs are not much used because their lyrics are sometimes very hard to understand. But I remember when I was a student of french, I did learn many words by singing songs.

I know that TroySoy2 is a musician. Do you have any idea, TroySoy2?

Best regards
Giang

[TroySoy2]

Me? A Musician? :D Maybe some day.

I think a course for learning a few songs would be a great idea for whenever you have time. I've never actually sat down and tried to teach myself a Vietnamese song yet, but I pick up a few lines every once in a while... and then they get stuck in my head for the rest of the day! :shock: Especially a song called "Ôi Quê Tôi"!

I would love to learn an entire song and actually be able to understand it. It's definitely a good way to learn some new vocabulary, see it in use, and how to pronouce the words. In my Spanish classes in school, we sometimes listen to songs in order to write out the lyrics. I don't really have anything to add because I think you two already said everything, but it's a great idea. Keep it in mind and maybe one day you could start such a course.

[plaucl]

Hello TróySoy2,

Nice to meet you. Spanish thru songs - seems like a common thing. Found numerous sites offering this service/lessons.

Hi Giang,

Have given the design some thought. Will email to you separately - it is too long for the forum.

[danielw]

Nhacso.net has more songs than you would ever need. Vang Trang Khoc is a great one to learn for karaoke. Some of my favorite songs are Khi giac mo ve, Ghen, and Diep khuc mua xuan by Phuong Thanh. The last one by Chanh is a great one to learn, Vietnamese people will smile big when you sing it. I sing badly and they still smile...or sing along louder.

--Daniel