Why learn English !

[DangTrungHieu]

We have got my language. Vietnamese. Why we must to learn English.

True. English must to learn Vietnamese when they exchange with us.

My thinking is true or false ?

[nktvn]

I don't understand your point.

[Khatores]

We have got my language. Vietnamese. Why we must to learn English.

This is why...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8754710070048941275&q=learn+english

:lol:

[giang]

We have got my language. Vietnamese. Why we must to learn English.

True. English must to learn Vietnamese when they exchange with us.

My thinking is true or false ?

Hello,

It's impossible to judge your thinking true or false. Each person has his/her particular situation. If one don't need to communicate with English speakers, then they won't need to learn. Just like you learn to drive a bike or a car. If you don't need to drive it, either because you are a peasant who works on the ricefield all the time, or because you are a big boss who has a private driver, then you will not learn.

Think about who need who and when and why and how. A young student who is studying abroad, and who need to learn scientific knowledges that later he can go back and apply these knowledges in VN, will learn English.

Welcome these thinkings. VIEX is the place for discussion.

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Chào bạn,

Không thể nào xét suy nghĩ của bạn là đúng hay sai. Mỗi người có một hoàn cảnh riêng. Nếu người ta không có nhu cầu giao tiếp với những người nói tiếng Anh, thì họ sẽ chẳng cần phải học tiếng Anh. Giống như bạn học lái xe máy hay xe hơi vậy. Nếu bạn không cần lái, hoặc là bởi vì bạn là anh nông dân suốt ngày chỉ hùng hục ngoài đồng, hoặc bạn là ông chủ bự, có hẳn một tên tài xế riêng, thì bạn đâu có cần học lái xe.

Cái bạn nên nghĩ là ai đang cần ai và cần khi nào, cần ở đâu và cần như thế nào. Một bạn sinh viên trẻ, đang học ở nước ngoài, cần có tiếng Anh để học những kiến thức để rồi sau này đem về áp dụng chúng ở VN, thì sẽ học tiếng Anh.

Hoan nghênh những ý tưởng như vậy, VIEX là nơi để thảo luận mà !


Dinh Lu Giang

[abc]

We have got my language. Vietnamese. Why we must to learn English.

True. English must to learn Vietnamese when they exchange with us.

My thinking is true or false ?

Your thinking is just EXCELLENT. Your say the same think that my grand-grand mother says :D

[DangTrungHieu]

Hello everybody !

Actually, I also like learn English,but I learn English too long, about 7-8 years. I still not good English. So I hate English. :evil:

Then, I pass an examination of university. I go to City for study. I make the acquaintance of Internet. I glide Web on Internet, I see there are so much webpages write by English. I also want understand it write what. :( Thus, I want to learn English again. But I still not advance my English. :cry:


Someday, unexpected, I know address of this pages, and I join member, with hope I will learn Enlish rather.

Today, when I come back this page. I really happy because my topic have got person reply.

I also ashamed much, due to I take many grammar, spelling. But I
still decisive to leave ashamed.My purpose want discuss with everyone.

I expect any idea of everybody !

Thanks !

[Ern]

Hello Hieu
Yes I can understand you, English is very hard to learn.
But the internet is mostly in English and most books are the same. IF we agree with it or not, English seems to becoming the most used language.
Please do not be ashamed about your English my friend, wait until you see my Vietnamese...then you can laugh :D

[nktvn]

Don't worry about your English. I'm pretty good at it, so I can help you build English sentences with confidence. It seems that you have a lot of trouble understanding grammar. Chat with me on IM anytime you want so I can help.

[songha]

Hi DangTrungHieu,

Your English is pretty good! English is hard because there are so many rules and exceptions to those rules. I was raised speaking English and I still have trouble with spelling and grammar ;) I am hoping that learning Vietnamese will be easier...

[giang]

Hi DangTrungHieu,

Songha is right, your English is good. In my opinion, writting posts regularly in this forum is also the way to improve your English. Me too, I have learnt English for ages, but i still have so many mistakes when speaking and writting English. :) See, my people are ready to help you. Find a friend around this VIEX and start to make course exchange!

Giang

[DangTrungHieu]

I'm very joyful. Everybody help me ! Thanks. thanks.....

Now, I have self-confidence rather when I think everybody said.

I thanks all !

But, I think who also have work private,. So If I ask everyone help me all the time when I join this forum , be I think this thing shouldn't.

From now on, I only hope everybody allow me discuss. No, afraid my spelling and grammar .Only understand my idea.

Thanks ! :P

[nktvn]

You're using "tiếng Anh bồi" too much. Don't abuse it. Start learning real English! Chat with me.

[Khatores]

I also ashamed much, due to I take many grammar, spelling. But I
still decisive to leave ashamed.My purpose want discuss with everyone.

I expect any idea of everybody !

Thanks !
I'm a native speaker, and I can understand you well enough. Of course, writing is different from speaking, but you seem to be at least functional.

Don't worry too much if your English is not perfect. Here's why:

- There are hundreds of dialects of English across the world and among ethnic and cultural groups. There is no such thing as perfect English; the British say that London English is proper, Americans say that Midwest is the best, etc. Don't believe any of it.

- Because of the massive number of foreign speakers, most native speakers are used to hearing a wide variety of accents, and don't think that much about it. Probably 80% of English speakers are "still trying". When you're in the majority, it's ok. :)

- English is a really hard (and huge!) language, and most native speakers don't even speak it correctly. The Oxford English Dictionary is the largest dictionary ever created, and it's not even complete.

So, don't be too worried or frustrated about it - just learn at your own pace and speak what you can. As long as you can communicate, you'll be ok.

[DangTrungHieu]

I feel happy and self-confident, more. When I read your topic. :)

Thanks. I will try, try...try.

[watersg]

Hello everyone,
My thinking is the same Hiéu' thinking, I study English for a long time but I can not impove it. My work don't use English so I have not motivation to study. But now I want to study English to communicate with foriegner & I can to get promotions in my job. I hope that everyone can help me study well English.
Please cerrect if I write wrong.
Thank you very much.

[camly]

Hello everyone,
My thinking is the same Hiéu' thinking, I study English for a long time but I can not impove it. My work don't use English so I have not motivation to study. But now I want to study English to communicate with foriegner & I can to get promotions in my job. I hope that everyone can help me study well English.
Please cerrect if I write wrong.
Thank you very much.

Hello WaterSG,

I think that joining this forum is a very good way to learn English and to help people learning Vietnamese. I have some exchanges with some members here using Yahoo Messenger, and it works very well. Now I feel that my English improves everyday and also happy that my friends can now speak a little Vietnamese.
Cheers

Camly

[watersg]

Hello camly,
Thank you very much, I am very happy if you can help me learning English, I have not time to joint English class, so everyday I study English in office from 12h30 to 13h. If you have free time you can chat with me, my ID : water_dng@yahoo.com

[ChubbyChocobobo]

We have got my language. Vietnamese. Why we must to learn English.

This is why...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8754710070048941275&q=learn+english

:lol:

Hahaha... Hilarious. I've found another link about English learning:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8658065268222085253

PS: are you "sinking" what I'm "sinking"? ROTFL

[nttext]

Hi everybody!!
I'm a quite new member here and just known about this forum . But I can see that it's very useful for everybody to practise and improve their English. I know that my english is still not perfect and there are still many mistake . At work, I only use simple words and phrases to communicate, to write e-mail , so my vocabulary now is much more less than some years ago. I do hope that all of you here will wellcome and help me in improving my english!! I'm very eager to chat with you on YM by english!! My YM 's id is: nttext (same as my ID in this forum). Tks a lot!! :P

[camly]

Dear nttext, you are mostly right. However, please remember that this forum is also for no-Vietnamese people to learn Vietnamese. In this world, nothing comes to you if you don't give something. If we want to be helped, help people first. I understand that principle when I go to live in US.

[nttext]

Dear nttext, you are mostly right. However, please remember that this forum is also for no-Vietnamese people to learn Vietnamese. In this world, nothing comes to you if you don't give something. If we want to be helped, help people first. I understand that principle when I go to live in US.
Dear Camly,
I think the message I have sent to this topic is the same content with the others, just want to make friend with english speaking people to help each other . Before sending this message I've read many topic and many messages in this forum and I see that everybody is very nice, eager to help each other if they could. That's why I want to join in and of course I will try my best to help each other if I could like every member here . I'm very upset when reading what you've writen because I think the principle you mentioned is so simple and all of us have it in mind no matter we live in Vietnam or US or anywhere in the world, no need to speak out!! Or you thinhk that I should point out clearly that principle at my first message?? I never think that I will help other people in order to receive some help returns!!!

[ChubbyChocobobo]

Hi everybody!!
I'm a quite new member here and just known about this forum . But I can see that it's very useful for everybody to practise and improve their English. I know that my english is still not perfect and there are still many mistake . At work, I only use simple words and phrases to communicate, to write e-mail , so my vocabulary now is much more less than some years ago. I do hope that all of you here will wellcome and help me in improving my english!! I'm very eager to chat with you on YM by English!! My YM 's id is: nttext (same as my ID in this forum). Tks a lot!! :P

Dear nttext, you are mostly right. However, plea
se remember that this forum is also for no-Vietnamese people to learn Vietnamese. In this world, nothing comes to you if you don't give something. If we want to be helped, help people first. I understand that principle when I go to live in US.

@camly: Personally, I don't see anything wrong with nttext's post. The notion of language-exchange was implied in his/her offer since he/she didn't deny to help others. It's very obvious that a Vietnamese would be glad to assist the one who helps him learning English learn Vietnamese within his scope. Furthermore, your principles are of your own. Don't apply them to anyone as a measurement of moral even if they sounds fundamental to you. Anyway, I think you just misread somewhere. You're a nice girl (I can tell). BTW, nice to be a friend with you. :D

@nttext: relax!. I don't think camly really meant to say bad about you. Hope you two can settle the disagreement. 8)

[nttext]

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@nttext: relax!. I don't think camly really meant to say bad about you. Hope you two can settle the disagreement. 8)
Hi ChubbyChocobobo, tks for your message and your understanding!! Hope there are many people here have the same thinking with you!! :)

[ChubbyChocobobo]

Hey! nttext. You're welcome. Everyone here, include camly , are so wonderful. They eager to learm new language(s) and help others.

I just don't want to see a war breaks out in this forum. Assume that nothing has ever happened and be nice to each other, guys. ^^

[nktvn]

There is obvious misunderstanding here. I think maybe these lines by camly have triggered the issue: "If we want to be helped, help people first. I understand that principle when I go to live in US." They may sound a bit like a basic lecture to most people. Anyway, let's let go of this.

[admin]

We totally agree with nktvn.
To Camly: Please read back your post and make sure that it's not too ambigue that it sounds a lecture to people. We understand what you mean and we think your statement "If we want to be helped, help people first." is always right. VIEX and EV are working on this very principle.

To NTText: Welcome to VIEX and even though you can't immediately help people. Your introduction is very nice and friendly and we think you will be a friendly member among us.

I would like to close this thread, as has gone farther than its initial purpose.